1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,320 This is Hacker Public Radio episode 3,940 for Friday 8th of September 2023. 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Today's show is entitled Equipment Maintenance. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,680 It is part of the series Travel. 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,280 It is hosted by Ahu Ka and is about 13 minutes long. 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,880 It carries a clean flag. 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,480 The summary is. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,480 We prepare the RV and the truck for our trip. 8 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:46,840 Hello, this is Huka for Hacker Public Radio, welcoming you to another exciting episode 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:58,360 about RV Travels, and this is talking about our 2022-2023 trip to the southeast. 10 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,920 The last time we talked about all of the planning that went into it and getting the book 11 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:13,440 prepared, well the next thing you have to deal with is Equipment Maintenance. 12 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,440 And so we had to do that and we started with the tires. 13 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,680 RV tires can blow out and among the main reasons is age. 14 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,840 You see tires are a lot more complicated than many people realize. 15 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,680 And one complication is that they contain chemicals that keep the rubber flexible and 16 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,920 strong, but these chemicals can break down and disappear over time, so the tire which 17 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,800 looks good and has plenty of tread can be on the verge of a blowout and that can be 18 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,600 a very bad day indeed. 19 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,560 It can do thousands of dollars worth of damage to your RV, leave you stranded on the 20 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:58,800 side of the road and worst case cause you to lose control resulting the loss of the RV, 21 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,720 the truck or even your life. 22 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,520 So it's nothing to be casual about. 23 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Now the tires in our RV were manufactured in 2015. 24 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:14,440 I mean, in the United States this is stamped on the side of the tire by federal regulation, 25 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,520 so you can always check your tires and see when they were manufactured. 26 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:30,520 And it's usually the code is six digits or maybe it's four digits, but there's two parts. 27 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,320 The one is which week of the year and the other is which year it is. 28 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:43,800 So you know, 36, 15 would be the 36th week of 2015 and that sort of thing. 29 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:51,160 In any event, 2015, and we're looking at the end of 2022 meant that these were at least 30 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:58,160 seven, probably over seven years old and that's old that you don't want to take chances 31 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,960 that new tires were called for. 32 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,920 So I decided to go with discount tire because their nationwide and have an excellent warranty. 33 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,920 So I bought five tires, all right. 34 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:16,080 I needed to replace the spare as well since it is and it turns out the spare was even older 35 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,880 than the tires that were on the RV. 36 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,880 The previous owner was not paying attention, I would say. 37 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:30,720 In any event, I made an appointment to install all the tires. 38 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Then when we went to hook up the RV to the truck, it would not start. 39 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 So I had to call roadside assistance. 40 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,360 All right, that's an essential piece of insurance that you don't want to go without. 41 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:52,240 If you're going to be doing any RVing, I would say I would not want to go without it just as a driver. 42 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,200 It turned out we'd probably done it to ourselves. 43 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:01,800 We had disconnected the negative battery cables since the truck was just sitting in there. 44 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,040 And we didn't want the battery to run down. 45 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:09,240 The vehicles these days are drawing in the battery all the time, sometimes referred to 46 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:17,160 as parasitic load, turn on various devices and it can easily drain a battery over a few months. 47 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Then when I reconnected the negative, I didn't tighten the nuts sufficiently. 48 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,080 The driver from roadside assistance was very helpful though, diagnosed the problem immediately 49 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,320 and got it started. 50 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,400 But he said it looked like the batteries were in bed shape. 51 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:41,840 So when we got it running, I immediately drove it to the freight liner dealer and asked 52 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:43,560 them to check it. 53 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,160 There I discovered that we had not quite done it right. 54 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,720 We disconnected the negative cable, but because we have multiple batteries in the truck, 55 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,000 we would have needed to disconnect all of the negative cables or else there would still 56 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,800 be a drain. 57 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,920 We mentioned that most people install a battery shut-off switch to make it easy. 58 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:08,200 So I asked him to check out the whole charging system and install such a switch. 59 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:14,920 And then I would have to make a new appointment with discount tire. 60 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,720 And of course we have also an appointment with General RV in November to do a number of 61 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,960 RV maintenance repair tasks. 62 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Well, more fun a few weeks later, we got the RV to discount tire for the installation. 63 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:44,280 We made the appointment for 8am when they opened, but we went down there closer to 720. 64 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:48,640 And the reason for that is I wanted to get the RV into the position they asked before 65 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,520 the parking lot filled up. 66 00:05:50,520 --> 00:06:00,240 I might have had room even with the cars, but I don't like taking chances with the truck 67 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:08,200 and the RV connected the total length is about 50 feet and that's, you don't do tight 68 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 turns that way. 69 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,280 So I get down there and no problem. 70 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:20,040 The installation process took about an hour and a half, but we ran into another little 71 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,040 road bump. 72 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:27,800 I bought five identical tires, but the spare was undersized and on a smaller rim, which 73 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 I did not want. 74 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,520 So we ended up taking the spare tire with us in ordering a proper rim on the internet. 75 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,640 But we had new tires on the RV, so I felt good. 76 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,720 This is called foreshadowing kids. 77 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,280 We took it back to the storage lot and took the truck home so I could do a little maintenance 78 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:53,640 such as touching up the paint and a few stops, a few spots. 79 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Cheryl told me she had made an appointment for 11 a.m. on November 11th, which would be 80 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,640 104th anniversary of the armistice. 81 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,640 But when we got to the storage lot to pick up the RV, we discovered one of the tires 82 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,280 was flat. 83 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:13,240 You really don't want to see that with a brand new tire. 84 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,600 We had only had the tire 10 days at this point. 85 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,200 So we called roadside assistance again and they actually had someone there in about 86 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,200 an hour. 87 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:28,120 And while I was dealing with this, Cheryl sent emails to the service person at General 88 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,600 RV explaining the situation and that we would be late, but we'd get there when the tire 89 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,360 was fixed. 90 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,440 The company that roadside assistance set us was a local truck tire service, which 91 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:45,040 I was glad to learn about, it makes sense that there would be such a service, but I'd 92 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,320 never thought about it before. 93 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,760 Now the service person diagnosed the problem instantly when I said we had just had the 94 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,000 tires a few days and said it was probably the valve stem. 95 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,200 He removed the tire and sprayed a solution of soap and water on the valve stem and you 96 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,640 could see the bubbles. 97 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,160 That pretty much proved the point. 98 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:11,400 So he took the tire off of the rim, replaced the valve stem and remounted the tire. 99 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,680 He said if one was bad, what were the odds on the others? 100 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,280 And spraying them with that soap and water solution showed a second bad valve stem, not as 101 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,400 bad as the first, but it wouldn't have been a slow leak. 102 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,600 At this point we unanimously agreed to replace all of the valve stems, a valuable lesson 103 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,000 learned. 104 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Now the service charged us $15 per valve stem. 105 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:46,320 This is the truck tire roadside assistance service. 106 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Now I have no idea if that's a standard price, or if it is marked up, nor do I care. 107 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,240 The point is that if the sales person at discount tire had said to me when I bought the 108 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,720 tires in the first place, hey, you have all brand new tires here. 109 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,000 We recommend you get new valve stems in addition only $15 each. 110 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 And I would have gladly said make it so my good man. 111 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Instead I spent over $300 for a service call to the storage yard. 112 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,800 I only wanted peace of mind in the first place and an extra $60 on my tire bill would not 113 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,720 have bothered me in the least. 114 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,960 I later went back to discount tire and they put in a refund claim which was paid to cover 115 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:39,960 my costs for the roadside assistance. 116 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,560 I had to show receipts and everything but I didn't get the money. 117 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:49,720 While all of this was going on, Cheryl heard back from General RV that she had the date 118 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:55,840 of our appointment wrong anyway, it was not November 11th but November 17th. 119 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,200 There are lessons to be learned here. 120 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Okay, I never really knew much about the importance of valve stems but I think that from 121 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,680 now on I will insist on new valve stems whenever I get new tires. 122 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:13,960 I'd rather spend a few bucks up front than be dealing with the roadside assistance. 123 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,920 And the other lesson learned is the importance of not putting things off until the last 124 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,320 minute. 125 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Our trip does not start until December 15th so we have a month yet and can deal with these 126 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,560 issues without disrupting the whole trip. 127 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:35,800 In fact next year we planned to move our RV maintenance trip to General RV up by more than 128 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:44,880 a month we're probably going to set it up for something like August just because it's 129 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,760 better to have everything done well in advance. 130 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:56,800 We took our RV into General RV and November 17th gave them the list of things we wanted 131 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,520 to work on. 132 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Our service advisor Chad warned us that they were very busy and might not be able to get 133 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,240 through the whole list. 134 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Again, this is a reason for moving up our visit and future. 135 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,000 So we triaged the list, told them which ones were priorities. 136 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,960 We also told them that we needed to get it back by December 13th to make our departure. 137 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Happily, he called us on December 5th to say it was ready so we went down and pick it up with them. 138 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:34,200 Now we brought the spare tire with us so they could install it since I thought it was too 139 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 heavy for us to manage. 140 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Couple of senior citizens trying to get a big truck tire and it mounts underneath the 141 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,880 carriage of the RV just it did not make sense. 142 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 So we had them do it, did they charge us for it? 143 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Of course they did, they charge us for every single thing they do, it's a business. 144 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:03,600 The RV looked good in any event we were looking forward to making our departure on time. 145 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,080 I told the RV back to the storage lot, Cheryl followed behind me and her car. 146 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,360 I noticed the truck was running a bit rough and Cheryl said I was a meeting white smoke 147 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,480 from the exhaust. 148 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Then we got to the storage lot, we thought the front jacks were not working. 149 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,880 And if we couldn't use them getting the RV off the truck would be a problem. 150 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,360 But as Cheryl was going to look for help, I started hitting buttons and suddenly it came 151 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,360 on. 152 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,920 It was working so I disconnected and drove the truck back to the house so I could plug 153 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,920 it in. 154 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Now one of the things I learned from the roadside assistance guy who came to the truck 155 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,720 in October was that diesel truck should be plugged in if left parked in cold weather and he 156 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,480 showed me where the plug is. 157 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Another thing I didn't know about, but I could park it in my driveway and plug it in 158 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 through the garage so that was the plan. 159 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,600 But we're worried now about the truck, so on December 7th we took it to a westside freight 160 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,600 liner. 161 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,800 They were very busy and told us they probably could not look at it until December 13th. 162 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:15,000 They didn't look at it and diagnosed that we needed a new injector, so that's another 163 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,200 2000 repair bills. 164 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,840 I thought RV travel was supposed to be inexpensive. 165 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,200 But then they said that most likely the truck would not be done until December 16th 166 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,600 which is one day past our scheduled departure. 167 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,200 So once again I have to make some calls to reschedule our first few reservations. 168 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,200 This should mostly mean less time and Memphis, but since there were only a few things 169 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,080 I wanted to do there it probably isn't a big deal. 170 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:50,400 So this is Huka for Hacker Public Radio signing off and is always encouraging you to support 171 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,400 free software. 172 00:13:51,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Bye-bye, you have been listening to Hacker Public Radio at Hacker Public Radio.org. 173 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:23,800 The Internet Archive and our Sync.net, on this otherwise stages, today's show is released 174 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:45,960 on our Creative Commons, Attribution, 4.0 International License.